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« on: June 22, 2020, 09:34:43 AM »

Over Father's Day weekend President Trump held his first rally since the Chinese Lung AIDS ended mankind as we know it.  And for the first time since holding these events, it was not a sell-out.  Approximately 1/3 of the seats were empty, something Trump's opponents are pointing to as a sign of lessening popularity.

Yet it's been revealed that TikTok - which is owned by China - flooded the website selling tickets with fake requests, thus "selling out" the arena when it didn't.  This perhaps the greatest example of how the Chinese view the 2 prospective Presidential candidates in 2020.  

Regardless of fake ticket buys, anyone actually going had to worry about the twin hammers of getting sick and getting shot by protestors and/or the cops.  Given that, the numbers were actually pretty amazing.

So liberals cheering for the low numbers may be a bit premature (and of course, those same people claim that large public turnouts for Trump are meaningless in any event).

But Trump's supporters sweeping the whole thing away are being as equally silly.  A picture speaks a thousand words, and by not selling out the arena, it gave the left - and therefore the news - a photo op (and narrative) they never had before.

More importantly, Trump has not shown exemplary leadership during the twin crisis's of race riots and wuflu.  While he hasn't shit the bed as Obama did during the Ferguson/Baltimore riots by fanning the flames, neither has Trump done much that's positive.  Pointing out that Seattle is crazy isn't exactly a hard conclusion to come to.  Nor is pointing out that democrat governors haven't done a great job during the great plague.  I believe the phrase "No shit Sherlock" applies.

While one can understand Trump merely throwing his hands up in the air, I doubt very much that Abe Lincoln would have done the same in similar circumstances.  Yet Trump intimated 10 days ago he's done more for black people then Mr. Lincoln, an utterly ludicrous statement.  

Despite that, the glee the left's exhibiting about the lower then normal turnout may be a bit premature as the speech did not happen in a vacuum.  It's doubtful Joe Biden could fill up a high school gym under similar conditions, much less a large arena (19,000 seats).  Millions of viewers watched the speech (a good one) live on the internet & TV (Fox News set a new ratings record by airing the speech).  By way of contrast, Joe's been averaging something like 1,500 views for his basement meanderings.  

These numbers will start gaining more importance as we edge ever closer to the election (now a mere 134 days away).  Trump - despite shaky leadership and the threats of violence & plague - can still deliver a turnout.  Joe has yet to prove he can generate any organic, grass roots, interest from his base (assuming he has one).  This is clearly a great worry of the dems, that Joe will be standing in completely empty stadiums as Tim Kaine did when he was running for veep 4 years ago (remember him?).  

Saturday's speech gives Trump's campaign a warning about how the left and the Chinese (I repeat myself) will attempt to disrupt future events.  Perhaps the "low" turnout will spur even more Trump supporters to show up for the next rally.

In any event, it will be interesting to see what happens at the next rally.

No Donald, no
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/06/12/trump-claims-hes-done-more-for-blacks-than-any-president-besides-lincoln/#bc815d822c20

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/21/pollak-after-tiktok-2020-election-is-about-china/
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 11:04:29 AM »

Yeah, I don't agree with the approach either.

It's so hard to evaluate.

Of course, IM still going to vote for the guy, what the hell else am I going to do?

I've never seen a President so obviously under attack by foreign adversaries INSIDE HIS OWN COUNTRY, but really not 100% sure how to attack the issue.


I feel like there's a lot happening we have no privy to, which is always alarming.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 12:30:04 PM »

Well, this weekend did do some (more) illuminating....

Today AOC and CNN proudly supported/bragged about the interference of a foreign power into a legal gathering of their fellow citizens, preventing a good number of them from entering the public discourse.  Never-Trumper George Conway now attempting a similar sabotage for Trump's next rally.

Which I suppose is their way of saying foreign interference in our election process is OK as long as it hurts Orange Man.  Of course, their support of a coup aided by Russia already told us that once before.

Also, the millions viewers who watched Trump live on Saturday (nearly 8 million watched on Fox News alone), and the millions who watched later, mean nothing, but Biden's less then 5,000 views do mater.  It's science.

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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2020, 12:33:08 PM »

Related:

"Whitmer would consider trying to block Trump rally in Michigan"

Good luck with that Gilligan.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/22/report-whitmer-would-consider-trying-block-trump-rally/3234604001/
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2020, 01:04:55 PM »

Saturday, July 4th, 9am Lansing Michigan: Petition Distribution And Signing On The Capital Lawn to Recall Governor Whitmer.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 01:08:19 PM »

None too soon.

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2020, 12:58:59 PM »

John Nolte on Trump's slump - and how he can lose to a senile buffoon:

"Donald Trump is not only losing this election, if the election were held today, his loss would possibly be catastrophic, would be remembered as one of the most humiliating in history. He’s not only facing a landslide rejection of epic proportions, he’s losing to a 77-year-old imbecile and racist who’s hiding out in his basement.

How is this possible?  How is it even remotely possible Joe Biden is kicking Trump’s butt?

How is it possible that a full-blown idiot whose mental acuity deteriorates by the day, whose racist past would result in his statue being toppled, who has been in office for nearly 50 failed years, is now on the road to humiliating the president of the United States?

The answer is simple: Biden and his team have cracked Trump’s code. They got his number…

First off, Biden is not Hillary Clinton. The shrill, corrupt, and extreme Clinton was and is loathed by just about everyone. Biden is not loathed. He’s seen as kind of goofy, not terribly smart, prone to saying a lot of dumb things, but he’s not seen as shrill, crooked, or extreme.

And what this means is Biden is the most important thing you can be while running against an incumbent president: an “acceptable alternative.”

Right now, Trump is running the stupidest and most self-destructive re-election campaign in modern history. Instead of disqualifying Biden, he’s disqualifying himself when all he had to do was rise above the fray, all he had to do was what he has promised he could do anytime he wanted — be boringly presidential.

Biden is not an acceptable alternative, but only Trump can make that case."
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Yeah, the days of "4-D chess" are long over.  Trump's primary qualification - not being Hillary Clinton - has faded ever since the dems finally shut her out of this election.

While he's done nothing to truly alienate his base, like-wise he's done little to attract 3rd party/indie voters.  We're now only 125 days to the next election, and Trump continues to ring up unforced errors.

Now, I think Nolte's off base in his theory that Joe is an “acceptable alternative," one which will become very apparent should Joe ever leave his basement and speak in public again.  If Trump murders Joe during the debates, which is a logical thing to expect, then any chance of Joe being "acceptable" to independents goes by the wayside.

Even if Joe stays in his basement to November 3rd, the massive failure of Mike "doom" Bloomberg's TV ad-only campaign should sound alarm bells for dems.  Ads won't be enough.

But if Trump continues to step on his dick without any improvement in the economy, then the ball really will be up for grabs.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/30/nolte-joe-bidens-rope-a-dope-is-working-brilliantly-against-trump/
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2020, 01:13:10 PM »

Here's hoping.

If Biden gets in, that's kind of it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2020, 01:21:30 PM »

Kind of?

It's also important to note that the dems are epic in their ability to self-destruct.  We don't don't even know who Joe's veep will be (rumors hot & heavy it will be Susan Rice, a disastrous decision if true).  It's been reported for a long time that Joe will only consider a black woman as veep, a odd decision considering BLM ain't too likely to vote.

The chances are quite high that the dems "convention" will be a disaster, both because of rioting and Joe, whom the dems will find ever harder to hide from the public.

And there's the very real chance that Joe actually gets charged with a crime.  His "handiwork" in China & Ukraine still hangs in the air, and there's the whole coup-thingy.

But none of that changes the fact that Trump has stumbled since the wuflu hit, despite a strong start. 

It really won't start getting "real" until August.  By then we'll have a lot better idea.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2020, 01:29:07 PM »

I think he needs to let loose and go on the attack.

Start making arrests, push the Dems off balance.

He's best on offense.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2020, 01:42:55 PM »

One does wonder if anything will be done to the dozens of people who betrayed their oaths, or if Barr & Durham are whistling Dixie er some other non-verboten song....

But Trump should realize by now that he can't count on that to happen.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2020, 02:35:49 PM »

WHEW!

We're fine.

Look:  https://saraacarter.com/house-dems-introduce-resolution-to-impeach-ag-barr/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug

House Dems Introduce Resolution To Impeach AG Barr

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He must be getting ready to drop a bomb.

Why poke the bear otherwise?
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